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- From: pjk@netcom.com (Philip J. Koenig)
- Subject: Re: 512Kbps modem developed by Ericsson
- Message-ID: <pjkDpyArv.sF@netcom.com>
- Organization: Computers & Communications
- References: <4k9grj$q2t@rubens.telebyte.nl> <4k9qem$fnf@sam.inforamp.net> <pjkDpw55L.Czt@netcom.com> <3172f9fb.2406869@news.pbinet.com>
- Date: Tue, 16 Apr 1996 10:35:55 GMT
- Sender: pjk@netcom22.netcom.com
-
- In article <3172f9fb.2406869@news.pbinet.com>,
- John Navas <JNavas@NavasGrp.com> wrote:
- >pjk@netcom.com (Philip J. Koenig) wrote:
- >
- >
- >
- >>>... There are various schemes to get
- >>>high rates between the home and the calling office, but they all require
- >>>specialized equipment at the phone company's office and one can't establish a
- >>>high-speed link just by buying two of the devices and plugging them into phone
- >>>jacks anywhere in the world and having one call the other.
- >
- >>>The reason for my comment on the raw data rate is that most calls though the
- >>>public switched telephone network are digitized into a data stream of no more
- >>>than 64 kbps, and there's no way to squeeze more than 64 kbps through such a
- >>>connection and bring it out recognizably on the other side.
- >
- >
- >Correct.
- >
- >
- >>What you say is perfectly logical given conventional wisdom, etc, and sounds
- >>perfectly reasonable.
- >
- >>However:
- >
- >>Let me remind you that not so many years ago, people were saying the same
- >>kinds of things about *9600 bps* connections, before the concept of
- >>encoding multiple bits per baud using phase-shifting, constellations, and
- >>so forth had been successfully demonstrated. (I'm speaking re: V.32, there
- >>may be some other things predating this with somewhat different means, i.e.
- >>PEP, etc.)
- >
- >
- >Those comments suggest a fundamental ignorance of modem technology and
- >information theory. Current 33.6 Kbps analog modems will not be
- >significantly improved on unless and until the PSTN (telephone network) is
- >substantially improved. You might as well tilt at the speed of light with
- >hyperspace and worm holes. ;-)
-
-
- I admit that with _current technology_ it would be hard to imagine getting
- much more speed out of the existing infrastructure. That being said,
- head in the sand science doesn't go anywhere either. I'm sure you are aware
- of the kinds of things DSP has done that "traditional wisdom" claimed couldn't
- be done a few years ago.. i.e. current levels of areal density achieved in
- modern disk drives using PRML read channels, etc. Nyquist and Shannon have
- their theorems, but that's just what they are: theories that are true until
- someone either proves them wrong or comes up with a creative way to circumvent
- them. I'm sure you're aware of superconductivity, another "impossible"
- not that long ago. And its well-known in audiophile circles that the
- human ear can perceive sound beneath the supposed "noise floor" that the
- quasi-scientists would have everyone believe was the "brick wall" beyond
- which no information could be extracted. And so it goes.
-
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- Phil
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- Phil Koenig Computers & Communications pjk@netcom.com
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